Episode 8: Citizen Kane / Kristen Lopez

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Kristen Lopez confesses her dirty little secret to the world. She was a film writer and pop culture commentator that had not seen Citizen Kane. She joins James to confess and correct her shame. In this 90-minute conversation Kristen and James exorcise some demons and confront Citizen Kane’s place in film history, film criticism and popular culture. Is it possible to truly appreciate Citizen Kane without a proper cinematic education?

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CREDITS:

Talking Heads:

James David Patrick (@007hertzrumble) – First discovered Orson Welles by watching Transformers: The Movie.

Kristen Lopez (@Journeys_Film) – Film writer and pop culture commentator. She also runs the Citizen Dame and Ticklish Business podcasts.

Music Contained in this Podcast:

“Sinfonietta for String Orchestra, Prelude” – Bernard Herrman

“Xanadu” – Olivia Newton-John & E.L.O.

Supplementary Links:

Kristen’s List of Shame on Letterboxd

Citizen Kane (BFI Classics), Laura Mulvey

Citizen Kane: A Filmmakers Journey, Harlan Lebo

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Recorded in December 2017. Copyrights are owned by the artists and their labels. Negative dollars are made from this podcast.

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The Seeds of Cinema Shame

I meant to post an origin story (they’re all the rage after all) about the beginnings of Cinema Shame but the whole project took off before I could toss this out there. Better late-ish than never. Sometime in high school (1995-ish) when I became obsessed with haunting video stores, my parents bought me a book called THE ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY GUIDE TO THE GREATEST MOVIES EVER MADE. It had just been published in 1994 and was the most up-to-date guide on movies I’d ever seen. The lists contained within were broken down by genre: Drama, Comedy, Action, Sci-Fi, Western, etc. It even contains an awesomely nostalgic time-capsule section on the best Laserdisc releases.

EW GUIDE TO THE GREATEST MOVIES EVER MADE

Anyway, as I went through the book I marked the movies I’d seen and immediately set forth watching every movie counted off in the book. Suffice to say, twenty years later, dog-earned and falling apart at the binding, the book remains a constant around my TV. I’m still marking off movies I’m just seeing for the first time. A few months ago, I began wondering how I could encourage myself to tackle those films I hadn’t yet watched when the notion of crossing another movie off the list hadn’t yet compelled me. I’d tossed about the idea of live tweeting the movies but the rigors of #Bond_age_ made that impossible. Then when @campbelldropout offhand mentioned his 12-film list on Twitter, I had a EUREKA! moment and the ensuing conversation begat Cinema Shame.

In compiling my list of 12, I consulted the EW Guide for a few picks. I looked at the movies I already owned for some others. Perhaps the best aspect of this book is that the lists aren’t routine regurgitation. They contain some surprise entries among the hard-and-fast staples. This might be the result of it being compiled pre-Internet and free from widespread public ridicule. Whatever the reason for it’s longevity, this book has guided my movie watching for as long as I can remember, and I feel like I owed it this fleeting moment of fame.

A sample page from the Sci-Fi/Horror section.

A sample page from the Sci-Fi/Horror section.

Here’s a sampling of how the book ranks the most listed films by our Penitent Moviewatchers:

Drama

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No big shock. Kane takes the #1 spot in Drama.

Citizen Kane – #1 Drama
Gone With the Wind – #2 Drama
The Godfather / The Godfather: Part II – #3 Drama
Casablanca – #4 Drama
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest – #11 Drama
Raging Bull – #22 Drama
It’s A Wonderful Life – #27 Drama
Taxi Driver – #35 Drama

Comedy, et al.

Maybe I love this book because it picked Airplane! as it's #1 Comedy.

Maybe I love this book because it picked Airplane! as it’s #1 Comedy. Nobody’s watching Airplane!, however. I do hope everyone’s seen it… ahem.

Dr. Strangelove – #11 Comedy

Enter the Dragon – #27 Action

The Wild Bunch – #9 Western
Rio Bravo – #12 Western

North By Northwest – #10 Mystery/Suspense

Psycho – #1 Sci-Fi/Horror
Close Encounters of the Third Kind – #4 Sci-Fi/Horror
2001 – #10 Sci-Fi/Horror
Blade Runner – #50 Sci-Fi/Horror
Dracula (1931) – #51 Sci-Fi/Horror

Singin’ in the Rain – #3 Musical

…the only thing I really don’t like is the way the book handles the “foreign” category… just an arbitrary grouping of everything that’s not in English…

The 400 Blows – #48 Foreign
Rashomon – #61 Foreign
La Dolce Vita – #71 Foreign
Breathless – #75 Foreign

The Apartment – #51 Laserdisc (Ha!)

My List by @campbelldropout

First of all, I want to thank @007hertzrumble for putting this site together and his excitement for this project/adventure and for paying attention to my twitter posts (finally someone pays attention to me). Second, I want to thank @QuelleLove and @LaurasMiscMovie for creating and discussing a list of classic films they will watch in 2014 which gave me the idea of creating a list of classic films that I need to see for the year.

Now the films I have chosen to watch over the next year are consider the classics, either classic in the sense of all film history or classic to a specific genre or both. I believe most of these films will fall under both. There are various reasons I have not seen these films but I have narrowed it down to three.

  1. Time – Out of the 12 films I have picked only two are under 100 minutes long. It’s tough to find time to watch a 100 minute film let alone a 150 minute film.
  2. Netflix – Instead of sitting down watching Citizen Kane (run time 119 minutes), I end up watching Stolen (run time 96 minutes) with Nicolas Cage. I never seem to learn my lesson and always fall for this trap.
  3. Critical reception – These are some of the greatest films ever made but what if I dislike them or worse cannot understand what is going on. Well, this is really no longer an issue, but I believe it is one reason why I didn’t watch these films when I was younger. If I watched The Godfather and hated it, did that mean I could never be a film lover?

Below is my list of films for the year, I have switched three films around in order to complete a film for this month. The first film was originally going to be Blade Runner but I have pushed that to February because I wanted to watch the theatrical version of the film and not the director’s cut. For this month I will be watching On the Waterfront and hope to have a post up by next Thursday discussing the film.

January – On the Waterfront (January 30, 2014)

February – Blade Runner (February 27, 2014)

March – The Wild Bunch (March 27, 2014)

April – Infernal Affairs (April 24, 2014)

May – Seven Samurai (May 29, 2014)

June – Citizen Kane (June 26, 2014)

July – The Godfather (July 31, 2014)

August – The Godfather: Part II (August 28, 2014)

September – Taxi Driver (September 25, 2014)

October – Halloween (October 30, 2014)

November – Seventh Seal (November 27, 2014)

December – It’s a Wonderful Life (December 26, 2014)